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Post by cato on Sept 21, 2017 23:44:56 GMT
This is a sign of things to come. The pro abortionists are going to throw everything thing possible at this fight. They will shout scream and intimidate in every possible way. The pro life groups need to plan strategically a careful but vigorous approach to counter this attempt to silence dissent. If they get away with this then they'll keep doing it. Any ideas on an alternative venue? Shame on the cowards in the Aisling. Imagine if this had been opposition to a Gay wedding. Liberal hypocrisy at its vilest. Speaking hypothetically, if I owned a hotel and what McChrystal describes took place, I, too, would cancel the event in the interests of public safety, not only of my staff but also of the hotel guests and conference attendees. This could end up backfiring hugely on those who engaged in some of the actions McChrystal describes. Perhaps I misunderstand you but is this not a surrender to liberal bullying? These are anti fa style tactics which should have been faced down with Garda protection if necessary. Anyone threatening violence against a perfectly legal activity should be arrested and prosecuted. |
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 21, 2017 23:56:03 GMT
Speaking hypothetically, if I owned a hotel and what McChrystal describes took place, I, too, would cancel the event in the interests of public safety, not only of my staff but also of the hotel guests and conference attendees. This could end up backfiring hugely on those who engaged in some of the actions McChrystal describes. Perhaps I misunderstand you but is this not a surrender to liberal bullying? These are anti fa style tactics which should have been faced down with Garda protection if necessary. Anyone threatening violence against a perfectly legal activity should be arrested and prosecuted. That's one way of looking at it, but from a business point of view, depending on the nature of the events that led them to cancel (the specifics of which I don't know - I only have the information given in the quote from McChrystal) the hotel could potentially incur liability if it went forward with the event and an injury occurred. Perhaps they are on heightened alert because of recent civil unrest in places like Berkeley and Charlottesville - I certainly would be if I were in their shoes. I think the Aisling's actions are ambiguous here. One possible interpretation is that they wanted to expose the Left's thuggish tactics in the court of public opinion, another is that they are cowardly. I think it's important not to jump to conclusions until we know more facts. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 22, 2017 8:20:36 GMT
I think we should make a cause celebre of this, and bring it up in every discussion about the referendum-- to the point of exhaustion, really hammer it home. It might discourage future behaviour of this kind, and we can hope it will turn the electorate against the pro-choice bullies.
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Post by ClassicalRepublican on Sept 22, 2017 13:22:27 GMT
The Ashling Hotel btw, hosts the Humanist Association of Ireland's monthly meetings. HAI are abortionists.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 22, 2017 20:27:26 GMT
The subject of Liberal Leftist writers was referenced on a different thread. This website is called "Artists and Everyone pro-Choice in Ireland." The banner headline is "Fight Religious Tyranny"  www.facebook.com/artistsprochoiceireland/Speaking of tyranny, the social pressure to conform, particularly for the young, must be enormous. The hipster brownshirts are unlikely to bash your head in for opposing them, but they can certainly freeze you out of cooperatives/journals/group shows/jobs/grants/residencies, not to mention the next party at Saoirse's loft. In the age of social media, reputations can be destroyed internationally in under 24 hours. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 22, 2017 21:58:30 GMT
The subject of Liberal Leftist writers was referenced on a different thread. This website is called "Artists and Everyone pro-Choice in Ireland." The banner headline is "Fight Religious Tyranny" www.facebook.com/artistsprochoiceireland/Speaking of tyranny, the social pressure to conform, particularly for the young, must be enormous. The hipster brownshirts are unlikely to bash your head in for opposing them, but they can certainly freeze you out of cooperatives/journals/group shows/jobs/grants/residencies, not to mention the next party at Saoirse's loft. In the age of social media, reputations can be destroyed internationally in under 24 hours. This is why I think it's better to simply accept that we are at war (figuratively speaking), and to be ready to lose friends and be attacked. It's nice to be nice and I will try to take everybody as they come, but I'm not going to soften my rhetoric one little bit just so that I can schmooze with people. |
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Post by cato on Sept 28, 2017 18:10:41 GMT
A second Dublin hotel has cancelled a pro life event according to the journal.ie.
Why are the Gardai not investigating threats made against hotels and their staff?
Why does it seem to bother no one that free speech can be supressed so casually?
If this is how this campaign will continue the pro life side will be silenced totally. I hope the leadership of the pro life cause realise how fundamental it is to face down these thugs and expose their despicable tactics. If they don't this will get much worse.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 28, 2017 18:19:48 GMT
They should wring the maximum publicity out of them, throw them in that creep Colm O'Gorman's face in every single debate.
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Post by cato on Sept 28, 2017 20:55:36 GMT
Its a pity they can't be identified shamed and if necessary prosecuted for issuing threats.
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Post by Stephen on Sept 29, 2017 9:58:49 GMT
I find it interesting that the Pro-Choice Campaign argue that a person has a right to choose! Yet they won't allow People the opportunity to choose life or at least talk about it.  This is nothing new and I would not expect anything more from them, but the irony of it! |
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Post by cato on Sept 30, 2017 8:57:22 GMT
I see the glamour girls of Irish Trotskyism Comrade Claire Daly and Brid (bin the catholics) Smith are complaining that evil sinister right wing forces are preventing pro choice meetings by cancelling bookings . Three cheers everyone!!!😂
What the lovely damsels omit to say is that most of these centres are parish halls paid for by catholic parishioners. Sinn Fein have already held at least one pro repeal meeting in a Dublin parish hall but you don't mess with the shinners .... Other community halls have a no politics rule which is fair enough if you want to create a neutral community venue.
The big difference in the cancellations to date is there is no campaign to threaten employees by the pro life movement unlike the thuggery of the pro death legions.
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Post by cato on Oct 2, 2017 17:43:26 GMT
Like the biblical swine charging towards the cliff after Christ casts out the legion of demons the Irish artistic community to a man are backing the death cult seeking to legalise widespread abortion access in Ireland.
I noticed a poster by the graphic artist Jim Fitzpatrick in Templebar this morning showing Countess Markievicz with the Countess sporting a repeal badge. I don't know if she ever expressed an opinion on abortion which was a complete taboo in 1920s Ireland even among the suffragette movement. She ended up as a Fianna Fail TD. Fitzpatrick did some good work but is also the author of the famous Che Guevara image glorifying a photogenic middle class marxist thug. If Michael o Leary opened a James Connolly business park there would be howls of outrage but the left can manipulate history to suit themselves. I expect someone to claim abortion rights are guaranteed in the 1916 proclaimation.
I noticed a picture in the Irish Times last week of arty types in various historical costumes. It wasn't clear to me what it meant but they were being clever and brave and striking a blow for feminism by dressing up no doubt. I presume it's to indicate how backward we were in 1983 by passing the 8th ammendment. It hasn't dawned on any of these bright sparks that killing the unborn has always been viewed with horror in the past in the civilised world. Pro choice is a fancy expression to justify a practice that was largely unthinkable to our ancestors.
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Post by Séamus on Oct 4, 2017 10:50:28 GMT
A second Dublin hotel has cancelled a pro life event according to the journal.ie. Etc. If they don't this will get much worse. I've just read that the same thing has happened in Tasmania to a pro-family group, their booking of a conference room at the casino was cancelled a couple of days before the event, despite having been paid for in full, due to "unavailability" |
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Post by cato on Oct 7, 2017 18:05:31 GMT
Just a little example of subtle censorship.
RTE 's current account of the death of Liam Cosgrave gives an account of the Dublin - Monaghan bombings where 33 people were murdered . Normally a reference is made to the death of one woman who was pregnant and her UNBORN child. In todays report it refers to a" near term pregnant woman".
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Post by cato on Oct 18, 2017 21:40:29 GMT
The parliamentary committee to examine the 8th heard 24 expert witnesses . 4 were pro life.
Surprise surprise the committee recommended repeal of the pro life protection clause. Sinn Fein were joined by Fianna Fail TDs in urging a referendum to repeal. Not all the soldiers of destiny are on the side of the angels , alas.
Repeal =abolishing equality for unborn Irish Children.
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