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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 22, 2017 0:05:44 GMT
Should he wait for Kim to nuke Tokyo or Honolulu before he says anything? Should we take our standards from a third rate tin pot dictator? Leadership doesn't normally involve retaliating to outrageous threats with similar threats.... Should potus carry out a first strike then to save Tokyo or Honolulu ?I have no idea if a first strike is advisable in this circumstance, but I trust POTUS will listen to the opinions of experts whose motives and integrity he trusts. On a related note, the Irish Independent has just reported that "Kim Jong Un calls Donald Trump Deranged," but the Indo does not indicate whether they agree with Kim's assessment. www.independent.ie/world-news/kim-jong-un-calls-donald-trump-deranged-says-he-will-pay-dearly-for-his-threats-36157398.html |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 22, 2017 6:46:06 GMT
America is not limited to the nuclear option. It could launch a conventional air attack. Nobody wants to see a nuclear attack anywhere, the very thought is horrific, but it seems to be true that placating North Korea just makes them more aggressive.
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Post by cato on Sept 22, 2017 7:37:14 GMT
America is not limited to the nuclear option. It could launch a conventional air attack. Nobody wants to see a nuclear attack anywhere, the very thought is horrific, but it seems to be true that placating North Korea just makes them more aggressive. The opportunity to knock out Kim's nuclear programme and/or Kim with conventional means like the Israelis have carried out against Iraq and Syria has unfortunately passed. I think Bill Clinton had the last real option of doing this but judged the risk of a second bloody Korean war was too great. This risk has hightened now Kim has the hydrogen bomb. I think Trumphs remarks do envisage the destruction of Korea and not simply the regime. Apologists for Iran have claimed its' threats against Israel are only aimed at the government and not the Jewish people. That's not a claim I would be prepared to put much faith in. Kim will now up the ante to provoke and humiliate Trump . I fear he will detonate a hydrogen bomb firing it over Japan into the Pacific ocean. The US needs to be careful about playing a game where Kim is making up the rules. |
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Post by cato on Sept 22, 2017 7:42:42 GMT
Should we take our standards from a third rate tin pot dictator? Leadership doesn't normally involve retaliating to outrageous threats with similar threats.... Should potus carry out a first strike then to save Tokyo or Honolulu ?I have no idea if a first strike is advisable in this circumstance, but I trust POTUS will listen to the opinions of experts whose motives and integrity he trusts. On a related note, the Irish Independent has just reported that "Kim Jong Un calls Donald Trump Deranged," but the Indo does not indicate whether they agree with Kim's assessment. www.independent.ie/world-news/kim-jong-un-calls-donald-trump-deranged-says-he-will-pay-dearly-for-his-threats-36157398.htmlIf Trump in a bad temper decides to launch a nuclear strike the only way of his advisors stopping him is mutiny. Henry Kissinger gave (illegal) orders to the USAF in the 1970s to ignore orders from President Nixon when he was drunk. I don't think the Indo has to make statements on President Trumps actual mental health. I doubt they know in any case. |
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 22, 2017 8:10:09 GMT
If Trump in a bad temper decides to launch a nuclear strike the only way of his advisors stopping him is mutiny. Henry Kissinger gave (illegal) orders to the USAF in the 1970s to ignore orders from President Nixon when he was drunk. I don't think the Indo has to make statements on President Trumps actual mental health. I doubt they know in any case. I don't think Trump is going to launch a first strike in a fit of bad temper. For all his bluster, he strikes me as a very calculated and stable man. His foreign policy has been pretty moderate so far, aside from the strength of his support for Israel. |
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Post by cato on Sept 23, 2017 9:46:48 GMT
On a slightly different vein of thought the North Koreans did come up with a little bit of slightly amusing original abuse which flumoxed many US commentators.
I refer to the use of the word "Dotard". Someone in the North Korean ministry of Propaganda must have an interest in archaic English words or perhaps Kim picked it up as part of his typically Marxist Swiss private school education.
The verb to dote and the noun - a little dote (a term of endearment) are common in Ulster English.
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Post by kj on Sept 23, 2017 9:53:20 GMT
I don't mean to sound like a snob but I was shocked that so many people didn't know what it meant.
Apparently the US media were pronouncing it as if it were a French word: "Dotar".
Mind you, it's not as bad as when Australians pronounce "Degustation", they make it sounds as if a small nuclear device has gone off in the kitchen.
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Post by cato on Sept 23, 2017 10:01:10 GMT
If Trump in a bad temper decides to launch a nuclear strike the only way of his advisors stopping him is mutiny. Henry Kissinger gave (illegal) orders to the USAF in the 1970s to ignore orders from President Nixon when he was drunk. I don't think the Indo has to make statements on President Trumps actual mental health. I doubt they know in any case. I don't think Trump is going to launch a first strike in a fit of bad temper. For all his bluster, he strikes me as a very calculated and stable man. His foreign policy has been pretty moderate so far, aside from the strength of his support for Israel. We have never ever faced such nuclear brinkmanship. The fate of the human face could be altered in a few hours by two men who are easily annoyed and who display strong degrees of impulsiveness and are thin skined. That is terrifying. I hope naturally your trust in Mr Trump is justified. We celebrated the feast of the Korean Martyrs last week. I pray they are interceding for their long suffering native land and all of humanity. |
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Post by Stephen on Sept 28, 2017 9:00:51 GMT
Alabamas Roy Moore has dealt blow to the Republican leadership by winning the party's nomination for the Senate.
Is Roy Moore another example of the anti-establishment winning nomination?
One thing it shows is that Trump does not have as much pull as some beleive.
It also shows a candidate can win against Trump if he supports the broad movement of but may not have his backing.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 28, 2017 10:19:31 GMT
Alabamas Roy Moore has dealt blow to the Republican leadership by winning the party's nomination for the Senate. Is Roy Moore another example of the anti-establishment winning nomination? One thing it shows is that Trump does not have as much pull as some beleive. It also shows a candidate can win against Trump if he supports the broad movement of but may not have his backing. POTUS was playing good cap to Bannon's bad cop. To go against protocol and endorse Moore instead of the incumbent would have been to declare open war on the legislative branch with whom POTUS has to work, so he made some sort of deal with McConnell, implicit or otherwise. POTUS's throwaway comment "maybe I made a mistake" by endorsing Strange was a shot across the bow to the RINOs: if you don't start implementing the MAGA agenda they will vote you out in 2018. Moreover the endorsement itself was also a shot across the bow to the voters from POTUS - I have kicked down the door but my hands are tied and I can't do this alone. The voters can see through this. Even the silly pink tie was a sign. LET THE PEOPLE RULE. |
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Post by Stephen on Sept 28, 2017 11:18:31 GMT
Why did the Donald delete his tweets then if it was such a cunning plan or is that all part of it  |
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 29, 2017 13:23:11 GMT
Why did the Donald delete his tweets then if it was such a cunning plan or is that all part of it Who knows why he would draw attention to this? Possibly being enigmatic and opaque to confuse his enemies. If I understood every move of a 5-D chess player I would be a very wealthy woman  Breitbart is reporting that POTUS took Jared Kushner's advice to endorse Luther Strange. But that could be a psyops to confuse the media. I suspect POTUS was also hedging his bets by endorsing Strange. I will be extremely surprised if he endorses Paul Ryan in 2018. |
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Post by Stephen on Sept 29, 2017 13:35:00 GMT
I have a rule. If it looks like stupidity, it most likely is stupidity.
Why do you think it is 5-D chess?
Why do the mainstream media keep comparing Trump’s handling of Puerto Rico to Katrin?
Its nearly like there is a memo put out by the Mainstream media outlets to attack the Donald on one or two issues every week.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 29, 2017 13:36:04 GMT
Why did the Donald delete his tweets then if it was such a cunning plan or is that all part of it Who knows why he would draw attention to this? Possibly being enigmatic and opaque to confuse his enemies. If I understood every move of a 5-D chess player I would be a very wealthy woman Wait, first he was playing 3D chess. Then 4D chess. Now it's 5D chess. I can't keep up! |
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 29, 2017 13:49:31 GMT
I have a rule. If it looks like stupidity, it most likely is stupidity. Why do you think it is 5-D chess? Why do the mainstream media keep comparing Trump’s handling of Puerto Rico to Katrin? Its nearly like there is a memo put out by the Mainstream media outlets to attack the Donald on one or two issues every week. I think it's 5-D chess because POTUS has proven again and again that he can outsmart his enemies. In this case, he and Bannon used the Hegelian dialectic, which is usually a tactic of the Left. I believe POTUS wanted Roy Moore but was willing to work with Strange had he won, and look what POTUS got - Roy Moore. It's also possible he was threatened, but either way - Yay POTUS. The MSM are neo-Marxists who hate Western civilization, particulary America and the Catholic Church, which they see as the two bulwarks that stand in the way of the rollout of their Leftist secularist materialist world order. They had planned on achieving this utopia without firing a single gun but then came the patriots, rolling round the bend. They are trying to ramp up the cultural war and turn it into a civil war. POTUS is the leading figurehead of the patriot movement. He is under 24x7 attack because he stands up for Western civilization. It's a propaganda war, and the future of all our lives depends on who wins. But you know all this already, I think. I read a comment the other day, it said something like, "As he walks the halls of the White House, Trump hears the whispers of the ghosts that say, 'Dead Man Walking.' The whispers come from within the walls." This is why I get annoyed when people run down this brave man. We cannot even imagine the threats he is living under for himself and his family, and the burden he is carrying. |
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