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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 20, 2017 18:19:49 GMT
In Europe it's also known as champagne socialism. It's great to see Steve Bannon exposing the hypocrisy of the Limousine Liberal left. ....after blasting the British government for agreeing to help a full 20,000 refugees, Cumberbatch is unwilling to house even one. Moreover, my guess is that not a single one of those 20,000 will be resettled anywhere near whatever estate the multimillionaire Cumberbatch currently resides within.
What Cumberbatch does not explain, though, is why he did not provide refuge elsewhere. The character actor is filthy rich. The only thing stopping him from purchasing and providing housing for Syrian refugees is his own grasping greed and lack of humanity for the children.
What we have here is a typical case of limousine leftism.READ MORE.... www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/09/20/benedict-cumberbatch-look-housing-syrian-refugees-decided/
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 20, 2017 18:40:09 GMT
There are many good comments on the article. For example, from dtom2:
The hypocrisy of these bleeding heart libtards never ceases to amaze me. They champion all manner of libtard causes, gun control, climate control, borderless nations, and pro refugee immigration. And yet they, by virtue of their wealth and station in life, are excluded from the adverse ramifications of every cause they champion. Gun control, no worries, they have armed guards...borderless nations, no worries, they live in gated communities, climate control, no worries, they fly around the globe in their private jet, pro refugee immigration, no worries, they exist n a protective bubble far removed from any threat from the dirtbags. The hypocrites have no problem inflicting the consequences of their causes on us, the great unwashed, the little people, you know...the people on whose backs they grew rich... that's rich dontcha' think?
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 20, 2017 18:49:43 GMT
I have mixed views on this. I don't agree with their views, generally, but I think it's fair enough for them to be politically engaged. If I had such a platform I would use it relentlessly. A lot of the time these are people who have succeeded by their own efforts and I'm not so sure they would have thought any differently if they were dirt poor-- I'm sure J.K. Rowling had the same views she has now, back when she was a penniless single mother. People in the creative industries like acting would generally have liberal-left views whether they were living in a bedsit or a mansion.
And although I'm fairly hostile to mass immigration myself, I don't really like the argument that you should put your money where your mouth is when it comes to refugees (or many other subjects). The whole idea of politics (in my view) is collective action. Government can do some things that the individual can't do, that's the whole reason we have it...although if you are as wealthy as Mr. Cumberbatch, it's hard not to see a bit of hypocrisy.
The real thing I blame celebrities for is, not that they use their fame as a megaphone, but that they have so little chivalry towards other points of view.
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Post by kj on Sept 20, 2017 19:08:24 GMT
I think you're being kind. This man and his family will never be exposed to refugees, immigrants and the attendant risks and dangers. Yet he has no problem seeing others exposed to them. And his views are so typically simple-minded: "we can do something more than fish out dead bodies".
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 20, 2017 19:14:32 GMT
I think you're being kind. This man and his family will never be exposed to refugees, immigrants and the attendant risks and dangers. Yet he has no problem seeing others exposed to them. And his views are so typically simple-minded: "we can do something more than fish out dead bodies".The human traffickers love to hear limousine liberals say things like this.
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Post by kj on Sept 20, 2017 19:19:27 GMT
Dr Johnson says somewhere that the day people started taking actors' opinions seriously was a sad day for mankind.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 20, 2017 19:23:58 GMT
I have mixed views on this. I don't agree with their views, generally, but I think it's fair enough for them to be politically engaged. If I had such a platform I would use it relentlessly. A lot of the time these are people who have succeeded by their own efforts and I'm not so sure they would have thought any differently if they were dirt poor-- I'm sure J.K. Rowling had the same views she has now, back when she was a penniless single mother. People in the creative industries like acting would generally have liberal-left views whether they were living in a bedsit or a mansion. And although I'm fairly hostile to mass immigration myself, I don't really like the argument that you should put your money where your mouth is when it comes to refugees (or many other subjects). The whole idea of politics (in my view) is collective action. Government can do some things that the individual can't do, that's the whole reason we have it...although if you are as wealthy as Mr. Cumberbatch, it's hard not to see a bit of hypocrisy. They all have the right to express their opinions. What I am applauding here is the exposure of their hypocrisy. With respect to "collective action," conservatives believe in limited government (even conservatives like myself who are somewhat left of centre insofar as that in the main I believe in the welfare state). In a democracy that is culturally Christian, limited government means that responsibility for the material and spiritual well-being of the self and others lies with individuals first and foremost. The most successful leftist social engineering project of the last 30+ years has been to convince the Irish people that the government, not Jesus Christ, is God.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 20, 2017 19:30:09 GMT
I should add that I'm not "anti-immigration" per se, I am anti-globalist, meaning, I am opposed to the Leftist social engineering project seeking to destroy the West and, eventually, Christianity worldwide. Mass immigration is only one tool in the arsenal. Under different social conditions I would be quite pro-immigrant, and in fact was until I started learning about Ka1ergi.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 20, 2017 19:47:43 GMT
I agree with you about limited government, but even with limited government there are many things better left to the government. Like policing. I mean, it seems legitimate to complain about a lack of gardai in your area, rather than set up a neighbourhood watch. Or if someone complains about hospital waiting lists, nobody says: "Well, why don't YOU treat some of these patients yourself?"
Limited immigration is fine, but mass immigration seems inherently problematic to me.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 20, 2017 19:56:29 GMT
I agree with you about limited government, but even with limited government there are many things better left to the government. Like policing. I mean, it seems legitimate to complain about a lack of gardai in your area, rather than set up a neighbourhood watch. Or if someone complains about hospital waiting lists, nobody says: "Well, why don't YOU treat some of these patients yourself?" Limited immigration is fine, but mass immigration seems inherently problematic to me. I believe that policing, public hospitals, and a social safety net should be provided by the government. I also believe that limousine liberals who advocate publicly for mass immigration of refugees should lead by example and house some of them, and support them for life unless (a) the economy in which the limousine liberal lives is at full employment and (b) no low and middle income workers already living in the country are displaced by that refugee taking a job.
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Post by cato on Sept 20, 2017 20:10:27 GMT
I would hazard a guess which will no doubt be denounced, that the vast bulk of immigrants coming in are not terrorists but simply want a better standard of living just like the millions of Irish who fled poverty to go to the USA Canada Australia and the Uk. Many moslems among them are simply being good faithful missionary orientated moslems just like our ancestors were good catholic missionaries.
The difference is us. We in Christian Europe have given up. We do not believe anymore. Islam is not conquering us. It is occupying a vaacum. The response of the Catholic Church has been truly pathetic. We are no longer the heirs of the crusaders or those who defended Vienna or who fought at Lepanto. If we wanted we could attempt to convert the new arrivals to christianity and our way of life. Convert or leave. That is one option no one has advocated.
Isis and co are infiltrating Europe as well and there is a serious security threat and cultural threat which our rulers downplay or ignore. The idea of open borders has been a disaster.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 20, 2017 20:17:53 GMT
I would hazard a guess which will no doubt be denounced, that the vast bulk of immigrants coming in are not terrorists but simply want a better standard of living just like the millions of Irish who fled poverty to go to the USA Canada Australia and the Uk. Many moslems among them are simply being good faithful missionary orientated moslems just like our ancestors were good catholic missionaries. The difference is us. We in Christian Europe have given up. We do not believe anymore. Islam is not conquering us. It is occupying a vaacum. The response of the Catholic Church has been truly pathetic. We are no longer the heirs of the crusaders or those who defended Vienna or who fought at Lepanto. If we wanted we could attempt to convert the new arrivals to christianity and our way of life. Convert or leave. That is one option no one has advocated. Isis and co are infiltrating Europe as well and there is a serious security threat and cultural threat which our rulers downplay or ignore. The idea of open borders has been a disaster. Well said. I have often pointed out that Islam is a decoy and that Muslim immigrants are being used by the Left. Divide and conquer is the Left's dirtiest trick.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Sept 20, 2017 20:36:16 GMT
I would hazard a guess which will no doubt be denounced, that the vast bulk of immigrants coming in are not terrorists but simply want a better standard of living just like the millions of Irish who fled poverty to go to the USA Canada Australia and the Uk. Many moslems among them are simply being good faithful missionary orientated moslems just like our ancestors were good catholic missionaries. The difference is us. We in Christian Europe have given up. We do not believe anymore. Islam is not conquering us. It is occupying a vaacum. The response of the Catholic Church has been truly pathetic. We are no longer the heirs of the crusaders or those who defended Vienna or who fought at Lepanto. If we wanted we could attempt to convert the new arrivals to christianity and our way of life. Convert or leave. That is one option no one has advocated. Isis and co are infiltrating Europe as well and there is a serious security threat and cultural threat which our rulers downplay or ignore. The idea of open borders has been a disaster. I agree. I think Peter Hitchens put it well when he said he was more frightened by the majority of peaceful, devout Muslims than he was by the minority of terrorists. Because he doesn't want Britain to become Muslim. Because he is a Christian.
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Post by kj on Sept 20, 2017 20:44:43 GMT
Told this before, but I attended Christmas Day mass in Connemara in what is purported to be Ireland's smallest church. The priest was Polish and his homily consisted in giving the congregation a, no other word for it, bollocking for not defending and standing up for their Faith while a 'new religion' was taking over Europe. I was most impressed. Even the 80 year-olds in the back pews seem cowed.
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Post by MourningIreland on Sept 20, 2017 20:53:15 GMT
Told this before, but I attended Christmas Day mass in Connemara in what is purported to be Ireland's smallest church. The priest was Polish and his homily consisted in giving the congregation a, no other word for it, bollocking for not defending and standing up for their Faith while a 'new religion' was taking over Europe. I was most impressed. Even the 80 year-olds in the back pews seem cowed. That's interesting. The Polish, at least those that remain in Poland, seem to be waking up - this might have something to do with their recent memories of living under Soviet tyranny:
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