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Post by cato on Oct 14, 2017 15:58:53 GMT
Most of the news on the issue of the repeal of the 8th has been very disapointing from a pro life standpoint so far. The deliberations of the Oireachtas committee to look into the matter seems to be totally one sided with only two dissenting pro life voices.
However today there was some light on the horizon . The Fianna Fail Ard Fheis voted in favour of retaining the 8th and in a seperate vote rejected the right to choose to kill the unborn.
The attitude of Micheal Martin and Timothy Dooley and several others who have sat on the fence or made the usual I am personally opposed BUT ... shrieks , is disapointing but it is heartening to know one of the biggest parties has nailed its' colours to the mast.
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Post by cato on Oct 15, 2017 8:18:30 GMT
The party leader Micheal Martin greeted the above decision by saying absolutely nothing in his leader's speech last night on the right to life instead condemning government spin and a shift to the right (if only!).
Silence seems to be the current response among those leaders who are all into modernisation and dialogue as long as they get the result they were hoping for. However when the plebs ask questions or vote the wrong way then our leaders hold their noses in the air and maintain their regal silences. It used to be called huffing!
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Post by Stephen on Oct 17, 2017 8:18:32 GMT
I was overjoyed at Fianna Fail Ard Fheis voting in favour to retaining the 8th. It would be nice to have a leadership that followed its member . Would be a nice way to differentiate FG and FF.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Oct 17, 2017 11:27:25 GMT
I know! It was fantastic. I am now officially a Fianna Fáiler, and my belief in the Plain People of Ireland has revived.
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Post by MourningIreland on Nov 7, 2017 12:21:52 GMT
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Post by Stephen on Nov 8, 2017 10:47:11 GMT
Star Parker seems to be doing good work. Her message in this video is not new and has been said for years. It's shocking that it has not been mentioned more. It's sad to think that it has to be a black woman that makes this argument for a few to listen.
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Post by MourningIreland on Nov 8, 2017 11:13:46 GMT
Star Parker seems to be doing good work. Her message in this video is not new and has been said for years. It's shocking that it has not been mentioned more. It's sad to think that it has to be a black woman that makes this argument for a few to listen. Steven, you're absolutely correct. The information has been available for a long time but it was suppressed; black conservatives like Star Parker and Alveda King have always existed, but prior to social media like Twitter and Youtube they were isolated and marginalised by the establishment. This is all changing, however. This knowledge is moving into the mainstream. A revolution is quietly sweeping through the American consciousness and black grassroots conservatism is rising, despite the attempts by the MSM to suppress it by ignoring it. The evidence is all over Twitter and Youtube. The historic stranglehold of the Liberal Left on black and hispanic Americans is breaking. This will transform America. This is a planned demolition and is key to understanding the Trump administration because without black Christian conservatives he would not be in office, and America would be living under the rule of Crooked Hillary.
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Post by cato on Dec 4, 2017 22:11:13 GMT
John Waters is being threatened with legal action by Irish Times journalist Kitty Holland according to yesterday's Sunday Times. Speaking at a Renua rally Waters criticised Holland's coverage of the death of Savita Halappanavar in a Galway hospital.
Referring to his decision to leave journalism Waters said "I no longer wanted to be part of the instrument that assisted a bunch of thugs in imposing their will on our society through propaganda, through the use of foreign money,bullying through demonisation ,through lies..... They jumped off this bandwagon (after the marriage referendum) and they jumped on this so called Repeal.
That reductive word that is being carried around by our children on their T shirts, that they don't know what it means. Repeal means kill. Repeal means murder.Repeal means slaughter. Repeal means genocide in our country."
The speech is on youtube.
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Post by cato on Dec 14, 2017 7:41:23 GMT
Yesterday was a profoundly depressing day for all who support the pro life cause. The cold methodical way the Dail committee outlined its' recommendations was chilling. The sneering attitude of the "neutral" chair Catherine Noone towards the pro life minority was deplorable.A few observations that occurred to me.
Media coverage was overwhelmingly indeed almost absolutely positively pro legalising abortion. Fintan O Toole on TV3 claimed pro life views were exclusively religious and were private opinions which had no place in law. No one challenged this view which places human life on a par with some devotional practice or uniquely catholic belief which has no place in public life.
The decision of Amnesty Ireland to break the law in not handing back the cash George Soros gave them to advocate for abortion legalisation has been ignored by most media outlets in recent days.
The proposal by 3 Fianna Fail members to advocate complete unrestricted abortion in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy helped create a majority to push through a variety of disturbing proposals . That the main "conservative" party is facilitating this huge change despite the views of its' recent party conference is shocking.
The irony of planning the slaughter of innocents in the season of Advent seems lost on the 21 person committee all of whom I presume are from a Christian background.It says something about the rotten current state of faith that these despicable proposals are now mainstream respectable opinion.
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Dec 14, 2017 9:00:10 GMT
It's depressing beyond words and hard not to despair. We must all get behind the defence of life more than ever in the coming months.
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Post by Antaine on Dec 14, 2017 18:29:02 GMT
It's easy to support abortion consequence-wise. If you oppose it you have to deal with screeching feminist-types, whereas if you support it you don't have to deal with anyone because you've already killed them. If abortion becomes legalised here, I hope God let's the souls of those children to wander the land. Or maybe allow them to appear to people in their sleep. Those who think it's ok to murder the unborn for the sake of convenience could answer for their decisions and actions then. If Ireland is supposed to be the Island of Saints and Scholars, then maybe God would make an exception and let that happen.
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Post by Stephen on Dec 15, 2017 11:52:23 GMT
If Ireland is supposed to be the Island of Saints and Scholars, then maybe God would make an exception and let that happen. I don't think God named it that and I hope he will 😀. As long as are society keeps on the thinking that economic equality of the sexes is the highest pursuit, we will have abortion. 🤔
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Post by Maolsheachlann on Dec 15, 2017 12:12:26 GMT
If Ireland is supposed to be the Island of Saints and Scholars, then maybe God would make an exception and let that happen. I don't think God named it that and I hope he will 😀. As long as are society keeps on the thinking that economic equality of the sexes is the highest pursuit, we will have abortion. 🤔 I don't think that's the only reason for the culture of death, but it's certainly one of them.
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Post by Stephen on Dec 15, 2017 12:14:54 GMT
I don't think God named it that and I hope he will 😀. As long as are society keeps on the thinking that economic equality of the sexes is the highest pursuit, we will have abortion. 🤔 I don't think that's the only reason for the culture of death, but it's certainly one of them. agreed
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Post by cato on Dec 19, 2017 16:06:19 GMT
Archbishop Fintan o Toole has a rather silly article on the" cruel Irish abortion regime that is too cruel for Trump" in today's Pro Abortion Herald (formerly known as the Irish Times)
He ignores two things. One to the best of my knowledge no one has ever been been jailed under the most recent Irish legislation. I expect there would be pro choice riots if that ever occurred.
Secondly Trump won his election in part by being the pro life candidate. I recall him describing partial birth abortion to the obvious discomfort of Irish media darling Hilary Clinton in one debate. I was amazed by his plain speaking. If he was an Irish politician I think he would be unabashedly in favour of keeping criminal sanctions to protect life.
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