May 25 2018 Day of destiny

As Peter Hitchens says, revolutionary leaders love to get the mob to dip its fingers in blood, like the September Massacres in 1793, so they reach the point of no return.

No one can now claim that Ireland is a Christian nation, not even nominally. There was a wretched excuse for abortion laws in GB in the 60s and other countries, because you could (stupidly) believe the official propaganda that it was to be restricted, rare and primarily designed to combat backstreet abortionists. Well, the results of that 50 year experiment in bloodstained massacre are now evident.

Anyone can look at the experience of GB, the US or the continent to see that all of the `safeguards` to stop this becoming an industrialised process are meaningless. I have watched a video of an abortion online. I do not recommend that you watch it, as I felt sick after seeing a helpless little baby carved out of its mother's womb and turned into strips of flesh on a sterile table.

Anyone can watch these videos. The Irish people voted for this knowing what it would lead to and what it would look like.

I sometimes worry I am overly pessimistic but last night as things became clear I realised I wasn't pessimistic enough .

There is no silent conservative majority in Ireland. Roughly 30% of the electorate now reject the killing of the innocent. They will be ignored and told to shut up in the days and months ahead. Some pro life TDs are saying they will vote for abortion due to the overwhelming Yes mandate. Had the vote went No can you imagine the repeal TDs coming out with that defeatist nonsense?
Our voice must continue to speak the truth.

David Quinn has said if mass goers voted No this would have been stopped. It looks like a large cohort of our more liberal coreligionists backed together for death. To my eyes this is mass apostasy. Tomorrow some will walk to the front of the church and receive holy communion. Mere words cannot express the horror of all of this.

We must however not lose hope. Mary Robinson and co did not throw in the towel in 1983. Let us in this dark hour emulate them and although we are beaten down , refuse to stay down. Let us pray for each other. Christ will conquer all.Come Lord Jesus.

I didn't expect victory, but I did expect it to be tighter than the same-sex marriage referendum. I figured people would be more sympathetic to homosexual couples, and feel a little bit more cautious about abortion. Seems not. Have the Irish really become so morally lax? As mentioned in another thread, for a time I struggled with the idea on abortion a bit. But, ultimately, I couldn't bring myself to vote in favour of something that would snuff out a person's entire existence. As difficult as unplanned pregnancy can be, I would not be able to live with myself knowing I helped introduce a situation in which the unborn would be seen with such apathy.

Also, I have to laugh - in a contemptible sort of way - at the amount of people going on about this being a "blow to the Church", and such similar phrases. When was the last time the Church in this country had any meaningful influence?

As far as I'm concerned, this country is going to Hell in a hand-basket. I don't care what anybody says. The idea that legalised abortion here somehow won't lead to an increase in the number of abortions is absolutely moronic. I'm not sure who it was, but someone on the tv earlier said that it wouldn't, and that abortion here would see an initial large amount of abortions, but the number would decrease over time; as if abortion is a childish fad that people will love at first but slowly grow bored of. What a farce.

By the way, does anyone know where the funding for these abortions will be coming from? I was told abortion was a private matter, which would suggest it should be payed for privately...with people's own money. But I'm not sure this will be the case.

I am still in disbelief, I actually cannot fathom it. The Midlands agreeing with the major cities? Majority of Rural voters voting yes? All demogrpahics of Irish except the 65+ voting Yes majority? It doesn't make sense. None of this makes sense. A part of me wants to believe there has been massive fraud afoot but I am afraid of letting that be a false consolation. And even if it were proven with video evidence of TDs admitting to it, I am not sure what that would change, the media would bury it, there wouldn't even be enough popular clamour to get the military to prevent an unconstitutional change in the law. God help us, at this rate some Great Man will be needed to drag Ireland kicking and screaming back from the abyss by sheer force alone, but with Mass muslim migration on an industrial, planned for scale by our political classes, several nearby countries on the brink of ethnic and religious civil war and our own birth rates plummeting, its either us millenials or Generation Z who'll be stuck with the fighting or we're all doomed. We'd best pray to God for a miracle, maybe the Light of Ulaidh prophecy is true, it would have to be, we would need such a miracle.

Pope Benedict as Fr Joseph Ratzinger in the 1960s predicted a much smaller church in a mostly secular environment . In Ireland that environment will be increasingly hostile. I have seen demands today for Breda O Brien and David Quinn to be fired from their newspaper jobs ( anyone ever hear about mc Carthyism?) and for all platforms to be denied to pro life voices. I thought they made a fairly good attempt over recent weeks to do that anyways. The amount of intolerance is alarming and no Yes spokesperson is challenging this so far.

Remember when liberals boasted "I disagree with your views but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it"? Old style liberalism was killed off today too or maybe its' corpse finally disintegrated.


I think the revolution which errupted today was brewing for many years. We got it wrong by imagining there was still a large pro life supporting group out there. Arguably it was always being undermined since 1983 and people started to listen more and more and agreed with the various critics who never stopped undermining the 8th in the past 3O odd years. Look at the yes votes to providing freedom to travel and for information and the failed attempts to roll back the X case.

Christians believe in the victory of Christ . All of this will pass for us eventually. But the outlook for purely political traditional conservatism is bleak. All the parties have abandoned us because we are shrinking and dying off. Ireland is striving towards a Canadian model of aggressive secularism. No one will be executed (unless you are unborn and unwanted) or picked up by the secret police but we will be scorned at , ridiculed ignored and made into second class citizens . That's the new reality.

Here's another consideration: we assumed that people who were reluctant to tell pollsters their real intentions were pro-life.

But the polls were so way off, a lot of Yes voters must have said they were No voters. Perhaps they were ashamed.